Monday
Sep102007
Poll: Blues vs Canucks
Monday · Sep 10 · 2007 | 1:10 AM PDT |  | |
BLUES | CANUCKS |
Place your vote and then feel free to leave a comment as to how you came to your decision. Tell all your friends to drop in and vote! The more voices heard, the more accurate the results!
| Poll opening date Sep 10 @ 4:10 AM | Poll closing date Sep 17 @ 11:59 PM |
07CHTRN | #W3B | STLvVAN
Reader Comments (63)
I find it so amusing how you people(not everyone) take this poll so seriously. Who cares if people think the Canucks logo is better than the Blues? Why is it so important that the team's logo that YOU like is not winning? Is the Stanley Cup going to be given out to the team who wins these votes? Seriously guys this is all just poll for fun...its absurd to take it so seriously.
i think the Canucks logo is better than the blues and i voted for them,DEAL WITH IT
Chocolate, what I find amusing is the people who clearly aren't designers, trying to argue the design aspects of a logo.
Just stay within what you know, or go and learn a little more before you argue.
At least if you are bias like I am, you'll vote for your team. If my team loses, so be it. I like the Ottawa Senators logo and what it symbolises and a logo is all about the symbolic.
I do agree however, that sometimes I get to serious about these things.
Haha Sens my post wasn't directed to you. It was to comments made by people before yours. Your post was a good read and informs the public of the backround behind the Whale, which is appreciated. Anyway, ttyl!
Excellent comment by DylanSensFan.
Upon reading these posts, I found an interesting trend (I won't call out posters because everyone has their own opinion). If you can understand the wheel in the Detroit logo, and the musical note in the Blues logo, how the heck do you not understand the orca? I'm not sure if this is an American thing, but let's quickly describe Vancouver:
City located on the west coast, surrounded by a giant body of water known as the Pacific Ocean. Within this ocean are beautiful killer whales of the orca species - a symbol of Vancouver for as many years as I can remember. So I see the Canucks logo as representing the region quite well.
Now yes, I'm a Canucks fan, but I'd vote for a better logo if I saw it. At the same time, I like the current logo, so if I vote for it, deal with it. In the current case, I don't care how "classic" the blues logo is, I don't like it and never have.
As for fans tipping the poll, that's impossible. I remember Chris saying it registers your ip. To check, I tried to vote twice, clearing cookies etc. It DIDN'T WORK. So these accusations need to stop. If you don't agree with the result, it doesn't mean there's a conspiracy. Everyone has their own taste in design - it's purely subjective.
Chris is doing a great job with this site - he deserves kudos for following his passion. In other words, get off his ass.
I have tried all the ways I know how to vote multiple times and it just can't be done.
Simply put, a logo that incorporates Motor City like the Red Wings have should beat a collaborative effort of the Indian tribes that created the Canucks logo. Spare me your sympathy for the Native Americans. The Red Wings logo is more iconic and relevant than the Canucks.
I am a Canucks fan and I am also a Native American. I want to know how a native american logo that honors the first peoples should be dismissed for that fact alone?
descendents of europeans have made logo's depicting native americans forever and mock our culture with gestures and gutteral sounds at your games.
The canucks logo is the only logo I have ever seen that truly honors native americans so I vote for it and I love it.
its kinda funny you all think its bad that canadian teams have more fans so their logos will win and you are shocked.
wake up hockey doesn't matter in the USA enough to make the fans come vote. If a Canadian team wins its because they have more fans that have found out about the contest and have voted because they are fans of the game, this doesn't make their votes invalid.
go nucks!!
To silence the nay-sayers, I have voted on a single poll more than once and it has recorded my vote. Not to mention the ability to skate on over to another computer and do the very same thing. Of course we'll just ignore this little test and believe the magical loveliness that the nucks logo honorably beat one of the best logos in all of sports...and then we can all freeze cause hell has officially created an ice rink!
As far as the Canucks VS Blues Logos, here is my two cents.
The Blues logo is a music note, and I understand that the team is named after a famous song by W.C Handy actually named "St. Louis Blues" but I don't unerstand how this logo could be related to a sports team. A flying note doesn't strike me as a symbol that creates any sort of athletic premise or danger to me at all.
For the record, the song that this team is named after is about a woman who steals the singers lover. Now I could understand if this song had something to do with hockey or even anything cool, but it is about a a woman stealing another womans man.
As for the Canucks logo, it has been said many times that this is corporate symbol. This very well may be the case, but is still does a great job of incorporating something that is in Vancouver and also happens to be one of the, if not the most feared predators in the ocean. And for people that don't know a lot about Orca's (also known as the Killer Whale for a reason) their diet includes, many types of fish including different types of Sharks and whales (blue gray and sperm). I have even read one time a that a Great white shark was killed by a mother orca protecting her calf.
Not to mention that it is in the shape of a C, and I can think of a couple kick ass jersies that use a letter for a symbol.
So as far as I am concerned, I'm voting for the 'C Killer Whale' over the 'note' of a cheating man.
I will state right off the bat that I am a Canucks fan. However, I am voting for the logo I think looks better. In this case it happens to be my team. However, in the first round I voted for the Sharks logo because I like it better. I did not vote for the Red Wings logo and I am not voting for the Blues logo. Is this because I am a homer. Absolutely not. This is because I have different tastes and opinions of what a better logo is.
I have not problem with the homers however. If this is how they vote, so be it. I really don't think that they are tipping the scales quite as much as people believe though. I have seen way more comments from people stating that they are voting for logos because they are "classic". This is in my opinion the exact same thing as voting for your home team. For example, the habs logo is very classic and has been around for ages. The history of the team, their logos, and their jerseys is a very rich one. The habs are my second favorite team in the NHL. However, I know that if any team came out nowadays with that logo they would be the laughing stock. It is very plain. However, like most fans, I wouldn't change it for anything and believe that it should never change because of this history. I also believe that the Canucks should have stuck with their stick-in-rink logo forever because it was classic. I however do not think it is the best looking logo.
So why don't you all quit your bitching about the votes and just vote how you want. My criteria is the look of the logo. Yours might be how classic the logo is or the fact that it is your home team's logo and it brings passion to you. Good for you. You have a difference of opinion from me.
I have voted on the same poll more than once, but that is because I wanted to see the results and didn't see the link the first few times. But I doubt my couple votes made much difference anyway.
Thanks Chris for this site. I check it out every day to see the new jerseys, the latest mockups, and the latest polls.
does the orca's predatory nature automatically make it sports-related? it's still ugly anyway.
In response to Canis:
First off, you're right, you could use any other computer if it has a separate IP. You can't help that. To assume that everyone voting for the Canucks logo is doing just that is simply arrogant.
Secondly, I know many Americans are stuck on dial-up, and if so, I can see how you personally can vote multiple times. Every time you dial in you get a new ip. If you're on broadband however, I call bullshit.
To add to that, by the end of 2007 it's projected 81% of all households in Canada will be using broadband (we have a heck of a penetration rate). Anyone on broadband is stuck with a registered ip courtesy of their isp. I don't see Vancouverites sitting at home voting 50 times a day. That's pathedic.
So to end the madness once and for all....GET OVER IT. Just because certain people don't like a certain logo, say the Canucks in this case, doesn't mean you speak for the other 20,000.
Besides, a lot of people are voting on these logos purely for the designs. Although some of you refuse to accept that anything is better than the original 6, others find those logos sparse and uninspiring. If this vote bothers you so much, don't check the results.
I should probably change my name as I see two other tyler's on this board. Ah well we'll pretend we're all the same.
Believe what you want and assume what you want. I am simply stating a FACT that I have been able to vote on polls more than once WITHOUT having to purge. This test was done on both a MAC and PC. Furthermore, one is on a wireless and the other on a broadband. So "Tyler" I've got no reason to lie because being a sports logo enthusiast for 35 years, a professional graphic artist for 16 years and an amateur sports historian I am saying to you that despite your beliefs there are holes in this voting.
But, that is fine. I don't mind people's opinions. I actually enjoy hearing why a fan likes his teams logo. I'm not "calling b.s." on your opinion. If you go back and read my posts I'm only supporting the post that said that there are actual flaws in the poll taking system.
So, get off your high horse and calm the F**k down. Nobody is here to tell you that you're passion for your teams logo is "wrong".
For the record, I think the Blues logo is very simplistic and symbolic of a town that has given us blues musicians like Miles Davis and Billie Holliday and THAT is why the "blue note" is a perfect symbol.
Pathetic! I just logged my 5th vote for the Blues...again this poll is BS and once again I reiterate a flawed tabulation.
i agree with johnny nucker. andrews favorite team probably didnt make it, and now he feels the need to nag down other teams. PFFFFFFF, go nucks!!
This has wound up being a joke of a poll because some people remain too biased towards their favourite team as opposed to actually voting for the most attractive logo. Oilers over Blackhawks? Senators over Bruins? Canucks over Red Wings? LOL, while the Canucks logo may have a cultural relevance, it's still uggified, it still looks like a constipated Free Willy trying to suck it in and play the roll of Ouroboros. Consequently it shouldn't have made it past the wing a ding dings.
I have the Blues, especially if they lose to the cannots.
Canis, it kinda sounds like you you're the one that needs to calm down dude. I'm not the same tyler that posted above, but wowzers it's just a vote setup by a single guy with passion for the game.
Personally I can't seem to register multiple votes on my computer either (like others have noted). So if you can, well super.
If you're concerned about votes being swayed just sit there and vote 500 times. Alright I'm just saying that last part to f*** with ya ;)
People are taking this way too seriously… It's all in good fun. I disagree with a lot of choices, but I'm not bitter about it.
I'm a Canadiens and Flyers fan from Montreal, and all of my votes were based on the aesthetic design of the logos. As a graphic designer, I'm totally unbiased.
My personal top 5 NHL logos are:
1 • The Flyers
2 • The Red Wings
3 • The Flames
4 • The Avalanche
5 • The Sharks
You can't seriously think that the blues is better than the canucks logo , what does the blues logo even have to do with S.T.Louis?
Vancouver has the orcas in the ocean which is right beside it , I havent ever heard blues from any band in S.t.louis
Ummm...butler32...some quick research would have avoided making you sound like a fool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_blues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Blues_%28song%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Blues_%28hockey%29
butler32... Maybe you've never heard of:
Otis Hicks
Ike Turner
Tina Turner
Sonny Boy Williamson
Albert King
Chuck Berry
Here are WAY more blues artists from the St. Louis area:
http://www.bluesworld.com/Other.html
i doubt butler32 has heard ANY blues. otherwise he might have known better.
korosu said...
This has wound up being a joke of a poll because some people remain too biased towards their favourite team as opposed to actually voting for the most attractive logo. Oilers over Blackhawks? Senators over Bruins? Canucks over Red Wings? LOL, while the Canucks logo may have a cultural relevance, it's still uggified, it still looks like a constipated Free Willy trying to suck it in and play the roll of Ouroboros. Consequently it shouldn't have made it past the wing a ding dings.
I personally think the Flames got screwed by the Chicago Blackhawks, the flaming C is a way better logo than that ugly indian head... that's coming from an oiler fan. As far as oilers beating them, I voted oilers - I grew up wearing that logo when I was a toddler, it's impossible for me to not have a biased opinion of it. But I still contest that Chicago's indian head is completely fugly.
Senators over bruins is neither here nor there, I don't like the senators logo, but the big B is really no better. I would disagree with the Senators beating the Flyers tho.
Canucks over red wings? Ya I totally agree that that was weak. But it looks like the blues will rightfully knock em out anyways. I woulda picked the blues over the red wings anyways.
As if I needed to justify any of it the Nucks board is pretty clear in their weighting this vote. Yada yada get a life...I have a life. Sports logos is my hobby and my passion. I find it very sad though that tech savvy fans feel the need to weigh this poll as some kind of superficial tournament. When all is said and done the Canucks logo(while very graphically intriguing) leaves many outside fans very unimpressed.
Sure the Killer Whale is a symbol of the region, but by Nuck fan's own admission it is a name that symbolizes "Canadian". Last I checked Killer Whales aren't indigenous to Saskatchewan or Ontario...or even Halifax. I think the point is you that you supporters of this logo may think it is a symbol of your team but it is strictly a symbol of a region. It has NOTHING to do with the term Canuck. Matter of fact I've polled about 50 Canadian friends that know little or nothing about sports and they all have the same response...Canuck=derogatory term.
In conclusion I'd say that this logo and the support it has garnered in this little poll has less to do with its attractiveness and more to do with a bunch of bleeding heart fans that have nothing to look forward to every season but a cast of desperadoes and an empty cauldron hopes and dreams.
I thank God every day that I was born in Michigan and that I was raised a Wingnut so I don't have such a pathetic existance as those in Vancouver/Victoria Isle/BC/Alaska.
Life is good and God love the Red Wings.