Polls: NHLToL Week 6
Polls close Sunday, April 18 at 11:59 PM
All 30 logos are paired up randomly with another logo from the opposite conference. This is the final week of preliminary voting. Playoffs start next Monday.
 Toronto Maple Leafs |
 Detroit Red Wings |
NHLToL 61
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 Los Angeles Kings |
 Ottawa Senators |
NHLToL 62
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 Chicago Blackhawks |
 Boston Bruins |
NHLToL 63
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 Edmonton Oilers |
 Tampa Bay Lightning |
NHLToL 64
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 Atlanta Thrashers |
 St. Louis Blues |
NHLToL 65
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 San Jose Sharks |
 Pittsburgh Penguins |
NHLToL 66
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 Colorado Avalanche |
 Montreal Canadiens |
NHLToL 67
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 Buffalo Sabres |
 Nashville Predators |
NHLToL 68
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 Carolina Hurricanes |
 Dallas Stars |
NHLToL 69
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 Phoenix Coyotes |
 Washington Capitals |
NHLToL 70
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 Philadelphia Flyers |
 Vancouver Canucks |
NHLToL 71
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 New Jersey Devils |
 Anaheim Ducks |
NHLToL 72
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 New York Rangers |
 Calgary Flames |
NHLToL 73
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 Florida Panthers |
 Columbus Blue Jackets |
NHLToL 74
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 New York Islanders |
 Minnesota Wild |
NHLToL 75
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Mini-Tournament In order to keep lots of polls open at all times, I'm launching mini-tournaments which will coincide with the playoff rounds of our major logo tournaments. The mini-tournaments will work much like the regular ones except that they will be shorter and feature a smaller niche logo set.
Our first mini-tournament will be Third Jersey Crests, that being the logos or designs featured on the front of a third jersey. Only current third jerseys are eligible, giving us 22 different logos. Check back later in the week for a complete list of the logos to be included and their random groupings. The first week of voting will begin April 19.
Tournament Notes Week 4 brought the tournament's first 50-50 tie; Week 5 brought two! ... The Lightning made the biggest jump of the week, rising from 14th to 10th in the East ... On the other hand, the Wild saw the biggest drop, going from 3rd to 8th in the West. ... Just over 48,000 total votes were collected in Week 5. ... Voting on the subject of the next tournament will begin May 10.
Commenting Feel free to add your comments about the polls below. Keep it short, relevant and friendly. Currently, commenting is unmoderated. Abuse it and commenting will go away. I'd prefer to offer an open discussion but not at the expense of civility. Also, if you choose to announce the logos you've voted for, do it in paragraph form. Comments with long lists will be removed.
Chris
Mini-Tourmament: Third Jersey Crests
As promised, it's time to reveal the logos to be used in the upcoming mini-tournament. The subject is third jersey crests. Eligible logos are those featured on the front of any 2009-10 NHL third jersey. There are 22. They have been randomly divided into two groups.
Group A
Group B
Notes Just like the NHLToL, logos will only face opponents within their own groups in the preliminary rounds. ... The groups have been divided unevenly so as to provide each with even number of logos. This means every logo will be included in a poll each week. ... There will be three weeks of preliminary voting. ... Larger graphics will be available when voting begins on Monday.
Reader Comments (46)
Pittsburgh vs San Jose should be good... it's the battle of the "triangle" logos, and animals with hockey equipment...
WOW, talk about b.s.
The Habs get middle of the pack Avs, but the Bruins get another great logo in Chicago. No wonder why the Habs won the first tournament.
@Nick...
Are you kidding?! Look at who the Bruins have faced to date! The Thrashers, The Hurricanes, The Flyers and the Panthers... In other words 3 of the worst logos in the league and the Flyers.
This is there only tough match to date... they don't deserve to be as high as they are right now!
The Habs on the other hand have the Rangers in their group, along with Tampa and isles (strong logos) and the crappy Slug! The Avs logo is quite popular on this site (not sure why) and will not be a walk to win.
Personally I would rate A LOT of the logos currently below the Bruins above the Spoked B... even a wordmark like the Caps is nicer (IMO)!
Chris: Can we have another mini tournament in November featuring ALL the ALTERNATE logos? (I want to see the Jackets' new cannon logo) Also, the Johnny Canuck V would run away with it if it was included.
Avs should be beating Habs. C'mon guys, are you blind?
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of voting based on historical merit rather than just the look of the logo itself. IMO some logos are downright awful, but based on the emotional ties some people have to the team they vote for them anyway. There's always going to be a bias in these polls, so I don't think it's possible to get 100% true results.
This keeps coming up week after week. I'm not sure what some of you are expecting from this competition. If you think it's anything other than an opinion poll, you're looking at it all the wrong way. Every voter brings his or her own bias, whatever that may be.
This assumption that people must vote on the "look of the logo" and not "historical merit" is false. Anyone can cast their vote for any reason. If there was any one quantitative way of determining the "best" logo — whatever that means — then there'd be no point in running a series of opinion polls.
The point is that it's fun and we get to see what the majority of Icethetics readers like in their hockey logos and their reasons why. So it makes no sense to suggest that the results won't be "100% true" ... whatever the results end up being, they will be 100% true. I'm not making them up.
Im suprised the Blackhawks continually gets good scores. I get that its mostly due to the history of it, but really, is the head of a native american a great logo? The panthers on the other hand is straigt forward, its a panther, but it seems to do poor, probably because its a newer team.
The first time I saw the Blackhawks logo, I thought the Indian's face was covered in gross boils. I realized after seeing it a few times, it was probably war paint and I felt kind of dumb, but it does go to show that it's not a perfect logo.
Anyone notice that the Wikd logo is a bear head??
Just kidding, just kidding. We seem to have the same posts here every week. No questions on why the Canucks have an Orca and not a 'Canuck' IN their logo? No further debate on why the Boston logo is so well liked when it's 'just a B with some spokes'?
The only surefire winner this week should be the Oilers over Tampa. BUT, everyone will beat Tampa.
man paul i was gonna punch someone because of that
Hey Paul.... Didn't Tampa actually beat the only logo that sucks more, the Buffaslug.
Sharkfan, my apologies. I did forget the epic battle between the Tampa Bay, Grade 1 collage, logo and the legless Buffalo aka. Buffaslug.
TheKleenexBox, I hear you! There are some excellent comments on here but the; "Why do people like it when it's just a..........." comments make me want to slash. I still do feel kind of stupid for not seeing that bear head after all these years.
The Preds are lucky. They scored a date with Sluggles himself.
The Preds and Sabres logos are actually remarkably similar. Same colour scheme, same pointiness, same angry eyes, same over-the-top attempt at looking fierce, etc. Preds by a mile though.. Sorry Sluggles.
Two thoughts: the Thrashers logo is really underrated. There uniforms are yes, but they have a solid logo. I didn't like it until I found out that the Georgia state bird is a thrasher and it then made a lot of sense. And secondly Calgary needs to abandon the color black! Until then Calgary will never win in my eyes against any logo except the buffaslug. Go Pens!!
I'm a fan of the Thrahsers color scheme but the logo itself is hard to actually recognize. What is it exactly?
Never the less, its up against the Blues, arguably the best logo in the league.
Does anyone think that the Ducks logo would be better if they added the "Anaheim" above it and "ucks" next to it, like the Caps have, it would get more votes?
I also think the orange background hurts the logo as well. A black backdrop compliments it more.
The Thrashers could almost fix all of their problems if they lost the toilet boil and just went with the Thrasher head. The bird by itself would make a sharp logo, no question.
Even as a Redwings fan, I have to say the Coyotes have a great logo. It is professional, clean, and you know what it is. It is infinitely better than their first attempt. In fact, their all around look is a great blend of retro and current styles. The best part is that it avoids the forced ferocity given to Buffalo & Nashville. The Coyotes will continue to get my vote based on the aesthetics of their logo and not on some sort of historical meaning.
That said, the team I despise the most might have the absolute best logo in the league. That blue music note outlines in gold acheives everything that a great logo should.
Other good logos, in terms of aesthetics and properly identifying the team and/or city: Phoenix, StL, Florida, LA, Detroit, Philly, Colorado, Pitt, Calgary, New Jersey
Mediocre: Ottawa, Chicago, Islanders, Tampa, Atlanta, Edmonton, SJ, Nashville, Carolina, Vancouver, Columbus
Terrible: Boston, Montreal, Toronto, Buffalo (worst), Dallas, Washington, Anaheim, Rangers
Good but I don't really know why: Minnesota
For what it's worth, the Slug will likely appear in no more than 15 more games ... ever. The third jersey is being used at home for the playoffs, so at worst, we get the white Slug three times against Boston and four times each in the remaining three series. Then, it's done; gone; kaput; finished; just a painful memory.
Agreed on the Thrash...just the head logo would be great. We've been saying the same for years...so what do they give us? Those awful burgundy monstrocities.
Buffalo has got to go back to the ORIGINAL jersey...not the updated one. Get rid of the silver and the piping...but most of all those silly silver pit stains. They look terrible.
Glen...The Avs should be beating the Habs? Not with those colors!!! There is more to a logo than aesthetics...It's called history!
@Adam Edgington
You said the Blues were the team you despised the most was the Blues but you loved their logo. Well, being a Blues fan it pains me greatly to admit that I think the Red Wings have a great logo as well.
There are not enough third jersey logos.
I think you should include the Canucks' V logo just to spice it up.
Maybe you're missing the point of a "mini-tournament."
So why aren't we using the Oilers vintage (primary) in the "big tournament" if we're going to use the modern (third) one in the mini-tournament?
The Oilers vintage logo is not their primary logo, they just wear it on their home jersey. They wear their primary logo on their third jersey. That's just the way it is. Other teams that don't wear their primary logo on their home jersey: Rangers, Wild and Stars.
i really think just for the sake of not having the same oilers logo used twice to put it in the other colour scheme, it just makes sense to me
Man, no Weagle, no Johnny Canuck. Sounds like an "secondary logo" mini-tournament is in order...
No Blue Jackets "hat" either. :(
Just wondering, who does everyone think will be the frontrunners for the mini-tournament?
@Leafs=Awesome: The Leafs, of course, because they're awesome!
Actually... TOR, BUF, STL, CAR, and CHI.
No way, Glen. Secondary logos will be a full-fledged logo tournament all their own. That'll be an option for the next one along with AHL and ECHL primary logos, most likely. Voting on that will take place the week of May 10, when the current tournament wraps up. For what it's worth, I also have a bunch of other NHL-themed mini-tournaments in the pipeline that I think you'll all enjoy.
And Jhero, I appreciate the suggestion, but if I make one exception, where does it stop? Everything has to be uniform. We'll also have a jersey tournament at some point so you'll be able to vote on more than just the vintage logo. You'll have the whole sweater.
I see the Front Runners of this Thirds Tourney being (in no particular order).
Boston, Buffalo, NYI, St Louis, Toronto, and Vancouver from group A.
While Carolina, Chicago, LA, and Pittsburgh crush the competition in Group B.
Though I notice Chicago appears to have a slightly unfair advantage due to the logo's background. Also, can we really count Philadelphia in this? The Oilers exception I can understand, but that IS the Flyers' primary logo, (black background was a nice touch though) come on, Chris, whatever happened to that rule that primary logos used on third jerseys were not allowed?
Curtis, who made up that rule? ALL third jersey logos will be used. No exceptions and no alterations, including the background on the Blackhawks' logo. How is it unfair? It's what's on the front of their third jersey. And if we're nitpicking now, I'll point out that the Flyers logo is actually slightly different. The "wings" are more angular on the sweater than in the logo used for marketing purposes.
You guys seem to have a lot of little nitpicks. Unfortunately, I can't keep having to address them all. So unless there's some glaring error that I haven't caught, this is how the mini-tournament will be. It's the fairest way.
If you guys have any other questions you'd like a response to, email me. Thanks!
The Canes should switch that weird Toilet Flush they have now for the hurrican flag blowing in the wind thats their alternate.
Quite inovative.
What would be super sweet is a tournament after all the teams come out with their new looks this fall. The tournament could take the entire history of a franchise and rate the best primary logos throughout their history. Some would be more difficult than others, as there are more or less changes, which is where complications could come in. There is a general feeling that the vintage logos are always better within a franchise, but being able to test that assumption could be kinda fun.
Pretty good idea.
I don't understand why some people think classic logos (ie. Habs, Bruins, Blackhawks, etc) are receiving a lot of votes simply because they're "historical". Perhaps the reason they're "historical" and have remained unchanged for decades is because of the fact that they're so appealing... Just something to think about. :P
Why don't the Predators use the full logo complete with the checkered background and the Nashville Predators Hockey Club text?
@ Derek. If you are referring to the saber-tooth cat fossil logo...The Preds wanted to use that logo years ago, but the league decided that it was too "morbid" to use as a primary.
Just to be clear Chris, I am not criticizing the mini tournament in any way just trying to add my two cents. I only suggest the oilers change because as far as i am concerned the retro jersey is still a third jersey regardless of what nhl 10 says, untill they have a white jersey with similar colours or scrap the navy blues all together i will still have that same opinion
Jhero, the oilers vintage jersey is their home jersey. NHL 10 has nothing to do with that, it's based on their official status with the NHL. The Flyers did the exact same thing and their black jersey logo is being used in this tournament.
Oilers, Islanders, Preds and Flyers??? Sorry, I don't get it. What's the difference between these logos and their regular logos??
Bill, i realize this but i disagree with it, thats all. The nhl 10 comment was supposed to be a joke, it just didnt come across in writing very well.